January 31, 2005

Hmmm...don't follow nofollow...


An interesting web site has sprung up giving some very good reasons for not implementing the "rel=nofollow" tag that was designed to fight against comment spam...below is one of the buttons they use and the "12 Reasons against nofollow"

no nofollow

  1. nofollow does not prevent comment spam
  2. nofollow is semantically incorrect
  3. nofollow harms the connections between web sites
  4. nofollow is not useful for humans, just for search engines using PageRank or similar a technique
  5. nofollow could be used to shut web sites out
  6. nofollow discriminates legitimate users as spammers
  7. nofollow heists commentators' earned attention
  8. nofollow will not stop comment spam
  9. nofollow could be used to further discriminate weblogs
  10. nofollow prevents the Web from being a web
  11. nofollow eliminates the dissemination of free speech
  12. nofollow was developed in privacy with only search engines companies taking part in the discussion

While i applaud the core idea of "nofollow" and the fact that it got traditional enemies to work together...i have been having the same thoughts about the value of the tag as the makers (and contributors) of the nonofollow website. It intrinsically doesn't follow the very nature of what the web and search engines are meant to be about...and a very big part of blogging is the comment system...this to me appears to be a way of partially crippling it...i'm not saying i have a better solution, and i'll take what people give me...but...

Saying all of that is great..and I been using the nofollow tag were appropriate...i just think its use needs to be made on a case by case basis and that is just way to hard at the moment unless you do it by hand...and stuff that...

And don't get me wrong...comment spammers should be taken out the back of the blogosphere and SHOT...but i don't think that this is the greatest and final solution to the problem...oh well...let the comment spam fly ;)

Note: if i find out that the nonofollow site is run buy a bunch of comment spammers...there will be hell to pay...

Posted by Mick (SplaTT) Stanic at January 31, 2005 7:18 PM | TrackBack

Comments

It isn't. The initiators of that (like Dirk Olbertz) are well know bloggers in the German blogosphere.

Posted by: Nicole Simon at January 31, 2005 7:40 PM

I spotted this by a post on Scoble's blog:

http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/01/31.html#a9301

I do agree that comment spam is bad, but how much do you see that really is trying to get a rating? The spam that hit my little blog when I first started a month ago, was a big blurp on financing (several of them actually). It did not appear this junk site would need Ranking, but rather, it was posted strictly to gain eyeballs from it being there.

I would think that most comment spam would be the same way, trying to get eyeballs, not PR (which page ranking I think is just a game anyway). So, I doubt the "no follow" will really help anything, but on the flip side it might do more damage to the nature searching the web.

Of course, some people are sensitive that "other people are getting my PR".. Who really cares. If a person takes the time to manually make a post that is any way related to the site, then great.. It is not like a site will Lose PR..

Many times when I a searching for something, I am looking all possible angles. If information is being lost because someone uses "no follow", I may only be one side of the issue. This could bias search engine results more than it would help. And anymore it is getting harder and harder to find things with all the messed up methods the search engines are using.

Google is becoming completely unreliable as it takes longer there than others for me to often find things.

Anyway, put your link in my SharpReader ;)

Posted by: Rocky Moore at January 31, 2005 8:37 PM

I highly agree. This is one easy way out. The spammers will always find another route. If my blog is popular for a reason, it should be rightfully on the top of a search.

Posted by: Christina Lucey at November 7, 2005 6:30 PM

Isn't comment moderation the key to preventing spam?

Posted by: Lisa Mills at April 11, 2007 6:44 AM

That would be my take on the idea Lisa...but...i also have to go through around 1500 to 2000 comments a day just to keep this blog ticking along and it would be great to have some sort of solution that really works :(

Posted by: Mick (SplaTT) Stanic at April 11, 2007 8:40 PM

See, I think nofollow tags in comments makes sense. It's just when a popular blogger chooses to link to a more obscure site, sending lots of traffic that way but no page rank... well, that just sucks.

Posted by: Shakopee at June 24, 2007 12:07 PM
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